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Showing posts with label Ceni vs. Waterloo feud. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ceni vs. Waterloo feud. Show all posts

13 August 2012

Ceni's Demands of the Grand Universal Republic of Waterloo

These are the demands from the Department of Foreign Affairs in response to the demands of the Holy Grand Universal Republic of Waterloo. 

  1.  Let the Waterlooian planets that joined Ceni vote on whether they would like to join Ceni, the Grand Universal Republic of Waterloo, or a new state to be titled the Waterloo People's Republic.
  2. Let the Waterlooian planets still not conquered or recently conquered vote on whether they would like to join Ceni, the Grand Universal Republic of Waterloo, or the Waterloo People's Republic.
  3.  Join the Confederacy of Independent Nations and the Association of Planets
  4.  Agree to respect human rights and civil liberties.
  5.  Agree to hold new free and fair elections within 6 months.
  6. Agree to write a constitution that allows for minority representation and greater roles for the poor and limits the aristocracy.
  7. Submit to Cenian review of elections and the constitution. 
  8. Agree to a Cenian-Waterloo Tariff Agreement. 
  9. Agree to prosecute officials of the former monarchy fairly and freely, with a speedy, public trial, and the punishments to be fair and not cruel or unusual. 
  10. Recognize Ceni.
  11. Recognize Cenian sovereignty over the protectorates of Loja and Jalada. 

27 November 2011

Cenian Soldier Treatment

I am sorry, Mr. Smith (a name chosen to preserve secrecy of his own name), that the conditions were horrible as described in this interview. These conditions are there, however rare, and the Cenian Department of Defense issued this statement: "We offer our condolences to the families of soldiers killed in the war against the Jato terrorist group. The actions of the officers were not sanctioned by the Cenian Assembly or the Department of Defense, and we will rectify the problem. The officers acted on his own accord. Cenian policy states that you do not kill unarmed women and children but however you may kill women and children that are in open hostile acts against you, i.e. trying to shoot you. We admire the bravery of Mr. Smith and will promote him to Colonel for his efforts to undermine acts of cruelty. All other soldiers of that battalion will be posthumously promoted to Captain, or if Captain before to Lt.Colonel. The officers responsible will be posthumously demoted to Sergeant. "

Waterloo Soldier Mutiny

Q: Why did you mutiny from the Waterloo Army, Mr. Ruthfalme?
A: The officers there were promoted because of loyalty to the Emperor. We were fighting the Cenian Army Recon Division. They ordered us into a hail of fire but when I questioned their orders they beat me to the pulp. They ordered my comrades into a minefield, as well.  We were not equipped for battle in swamps. We also were not issued with food or water, just money. We were tired and thirsty. Lots of other soldiers were facing the same fate, too, so we organized a mutiny.
Q: Did the mutiny work?
A:Yes, the officers were defeated because they had no military training, they just knew how to follow orders and no orders were given about mutiny.
Q: What will you and your fellow mutineers do now?
A: We will join the Cenian Army, to help defend liberty and stop other Waterlooians from doing the same thing.

Thank you.

Your welcome. 

A Talk With Shadow B'betsy

Q. A Waterloo news source has says you have taken bribes and have been executed. Of course this is not rue, as I am speaking with you. Will you please share your thoughts about this post?
A. [I am angry that a Waterlooian source would tell lies about me. This is just propaganda designed to scare Cenian citizens into fervor for Waterloo. I would not kill Kyn Tucin and would not take bribes.]
Q. What do you have to say about Waterloo's legal system?
A. [Clearly the legal system in Waterloo is flawed, with no appeals process for death row inmates. I say their legal system is just a way to shepherd their enemies to prison or the death row. Their punishments are draconian and would violate Article 9 of the Cenian Constitution, if it applied to Waterloo, which, sadly, it doesn't.]

Who Wrote the Constitution?

Kyn Tucin doesn't break the constitution, he wrote it. If you are not mistaken, the Cenian Constitution only applies to areas under Cenian jurisdiction. Waterloo is not under Cenian jurisdiction. If Waterloo has free speech laws, the Consul Demetrius has free speech. The United States' constitutional protections do not apply to Thai citizens, except when visiting the US. If the Cenian Constitution applies to Waterloo, then the massacre of Lojan terrorist supporters would be ruled unconstitutional under Article 13. He says that Kyn Tucin is racist by saying in Article 35 that only natural-born Cenian citizens and citizens born to Cenian parents abroad can be chancellor. Notice that the Cenian Constitution was based on the US Constitution, and the US Constitution says the exact same thing, except for one difference: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; "
However, you need to be aware of proper demonyms. A Cenian is a) a member of the Cenian species b) someone who lives on Cenaci c) someone who lives in the Cenaci sector d) someone who lives in Ceni
So only someone who lives in Ceni and is a natural born citizen or someone born to Cenian parents who were citizens abroad can be Chancellor. A Katte such as Shadow B'betsy would have no constitutional trouble getting to be Chancellor. I haven't heard anyone saying that the Founding Fathers were racist.

26 November 2011

Kyn Tucin's Speech to the Cenian Assembly

"A wise man once said 'One who gives up liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserves neither and loses both.'
"What I am asking you, Assemblypeople, is to choose between choosing our own leaders or having someone else choosing them for us. To give up our say in OUR government for peace only to face more demands in the future, or to war to protect our sovereignty and to defend the liberties of our people.
"Do we need a nanny? NO! Do we need a babysitter? NO! Do we need another country standing behind our backs and messing in our internal affairs? NO!
"Although you might observe this speech as a selfish one, it is not. I just want to preserve Ceni as a sovereign nation, not a vassal state or a suzerainty of another nation, one with no guarantees of liberties, one with no chance for the people to decide how its government is run.
"Behind my back the call me 'Kyn Tucin the Awful.' I do not care what they think about me! I don't run the country like it is my own personal domain.  The people elected me to serve my country, not my country to serve me.
"While the senate might send many men to their deaths in this decision, those lives will not be spent in vain. Their lives will be spent on a greater cause, one of liberty, freedom, and democracy. Shall we have peace now and war in the future, or war now and war in the future? Shall I give up my office to appease these warlords temporarily, or shall I keep my office and fight. Shall we 'hire' these people as our nanny, or shall we fight to remove this scourge from the galaxy?
"For every man that dies, 10 men will be saved, and 100 will have a life of  freedom.
"Over there, their decisions are made for them. Over there, their life is the government and the government is their life. Over there the only dream they are allowed to have is one of having the entire galaxy under their dominion. Shall we bring there over to here, or shall we keep here the way it is?
"The choice I am asking you to make, Senators and Assemblypeople, is for me to give up my office, the liberty of our people to choose our leaders for a little peace, temporary safety from war or to go to war now when war is inevitable late.
"So please make your choice. Liberty or a little temporary safety.
"I will step down or stay in office as the Senate votes.
"Ceni vivat!
 Cancellarius Vivat!
 Vivat libertas populi nostri!"

Does He Lie?

He does not lie when he says the newspaper spread lies about Kyn Tucin. It was true. Unless the newspaper can prove that Kyn Tucin did order a fanatical Cenian to remove Comsnet material, it will be true.

Also, Kyn Tucin is definently not feeble or fat. He is able to stand up for his nation and his BMI is in normal range for a Cenian.

25 November 2011

Another Rebuttal

A rebuttal to a rebuttal.

1a. Dictionary.com says the definition of a 'racist' is a person who believes in racismthe doctrine that a certain human race  is superior to any or all others. Kyn Tucin does not believe that Cenians are inherently superior to all other species. While it is true that Article 2 of the Cenian Constitution states that  "Any sector, planetary, or national government may not make a law banning or limiting the freedoms of speech, association, or petition. Moreover, these rights shall not be abolished or limited at time of war or at any time", Consul Demetrius is not a Cenian citizen and those freedoms do not apply to him except when he is visiting Ceni when those laws apply to him. Dictionary.com states that the definition of slander is defamation; calumny: rumors full of slander; a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: slander against his good name.; Law defamation by oral utterance rather than by writing,pictures, etc. Consul Demetrius did tell lies about Kyn Tucin, therefore slander is not protected by the Cenian Constitution.
2a.Simply not true. If he feels like citing the Cenian Constitution, then he must look at Article 13 which states that the death penalty is abolished.
2b.Kyn Tucin does not order people to kill, the Cenian Assembly declares war and it is the only body authorized to do so, as stated by Article 73 of the Constitution.
2c. The Cenian Assembly controls the purse strings. It is not Kyn Tucin's fault if the Cenian Assembly decides to do otherwise with taxpayer's money. Also note that Ceni has a generous social program and spends liberally on homeless people.
3a.No rebuttal needed. 
4a.We did not insult the Waterloo government nor the WTC.Dictionary.com states the definition of insult is to treat or speak to insolently or with contemptuous rudeness; affront;to affect as an affront; offend or demean.; Archaic to attack; assault. In both posts, we were just stating the truth.
4ba. That could be true; however I wonder what that has to do with 'Blaming us for Terrorist Attacks'.
4bb.No rebuttal
5a.We would punish appropriately armed men after a trial for terrorism or on the spot for hostile actions toward Cenian forces but however we would not execute women, children, or the elderly. 

24 November 2011

Kyn Tucin Sues Demetrius for Slander

Kyn Tucin sued Waterloo politician Demetrius for slander in Federal Court on Cenaci. He says calling him a 'savage, barbarian, cruel hearted, murderer ' is damaging to his reputation and that he is not any of those things. He demands $25 billion and attorneys fees. The case will be tried in several months.


To counter Mr.Demetrius' accusations he says this:

  1. Dictionary.com says a savage is, as a noun, is a : an uncivilized human being ; a fierce, brutal, or cruel person; a rude, boorish person; a member of a preliterate society. He is definitively not a human or a member of a preliterate society. He is not rude, say his closest friends. He does not attack his neighbors for the sake of attacking, he does not torture his enemies, and he does not order his soldiers to brutally kill his enemies.
  2. Dictionary.com says a barbarian is a a person in a savage, primitive state; uncivilized person; a person without culturerefinement, or education;philistine; (loosely) a foreigner. Mr. Demetrius did not do his research; he may be a foreigner to Waterloo, but he is not a foreigner to Ceni. He is not savage (as described above), nor is he primitive or uncivilized, nor does he lack culture, refinement, and education,
  3. Dictionary.com says a cruel-hearted person is someone with out kindness and compassion. Kyn Tucin donates 15% of his income to charity and refrains from attacking enemies; he is too peaceful.
  4. Kyn Tucin would NEVER, EVER commit murder. He is too soft-hearted to do that. He cares for the lives of others. l

And They Lie About Us

I would like to say something about a post yesterday on the Waterloo blog. They claim Ceni is doing these things:

1.Insults about our government
2.Blaming us for terrorist attacks
3.Supporting terrorism
4.Hating on Waterloo
5.Being late to battles
6.Not coming to our aid when we are in need
7.Because Kyn Tucin the savage, barbarian, cruel hearted, murderer is still King


I would like to rebut here:
  1. Where did they get that from? No posts were ever posted insulting their government. And, by posting this, they insult us by suggesting that we would do horrible things.
  2. Who would you blame first for a bunch of Holy Wolfes sneaking around Cenaci? No mercenaries were hired by Jacobia.
  3. No money was spent supporting terrorism, no bills were thought of, and the government would never do such a thing. Ceni would never do such a thing. We are a peaceful nation, and our military forces are for defense only.
  4. They hated us first. Isn't the natural response to someone hating you and insulting you hating them back?
  5. That is erroneous. I do not recall and mandate, directive, or treaty being issued that Ceni shall come to Waterloo's aid immediately, nor do I recall anything mandating Ceni fight Waterloo's battles, nor do I remember any battles where Waterloo asked for our help. And, if we came to battles late, why would it be our fault for not knowing about the battles?
  6. I do not recall being asked for aid, nor do I recall Waterloo being in need. And remember, we gave them help with defeating the terrorists.
  7. Your information is outdated. Kyn Tucin is not King. He is Chancellor, elected by the will of the people. They would not elect a savage, barbarian, cruel hearted Chancellor, nor a murderer. And he is not a savage, nor a barbarian. See this post for more.
If you go around making wily-nily accusations, please include some evidence to back it up. Please include 3 pieces of evidence before slandering your opponents.

21 November 2011

Why Go To War With Waterloo?

I wonder why they would go to war with us, we have not done anything to them. If we would declare war on them, we would have several reasons:
  1. The massacre of women and children on Loja
  2. The explosion of two of Cenaci's power plants
  3. The spreading of lies by a Waterloo newspaper
I would not wish to go to war with Waterloo at the moment: it would be too draining for us.

02 November 2011

Attack on WTC Post

The attack on a WTC post near Sotresso was not sanctioned by the Cenian government, however it was an angry group of outraged citizens.

01 November 2011

Waterloo Fires on Women and Children of Loja Along with the Warriors

Here is an excerpt from THNEOW Protector: ''All the Loja and Loja supporters were put to the gun.''
So all of the woman and children were massacred, too. Ceni's military would never do that as it would be killing unarmed civilians who believed in a cause. Waterloo's actions would constitute to a sort of genocide, killing people for their beliefs, even if they believe in a terrorist group. Cenian ships arriving at Jalada will stand by to try and get Waterloo to apologize to the families of the victims. However, they will not attack as spelled out in the Demilitarization Act.

22 September 2011

Treaty Shuts Down Violence Between Waterloo and Ceni

Today, in the Treaty of Calia, Waterloo agreed to stop all aggression, violence, and insults to Ceni. Leader of Calia, Captain Carl Weir, wrote the treaty and made Waterloo suggest it in return for unknown reward. Pending the approval of the Senate, it will go into effect August 1st. 

04 August 2011

Senate Building Set on Fire by Waterloo

Today, the Senate building was set on fire by a group of Holy Wolves visiting there on a tour. The building's Armageddon came when the smoking Wolves threw their fiery cigarettes in  the building's support pipes, burning and melting the metal and wood that held the building's ceiling up. Meanwhile, Senate authorities were on a wild goose chase for a group of Scorpian gunrunners who had met with the senator of Krysteel to endorse their scheme. 2 security officers were killed, although the gunrunners were arrested. As for the collapse, all members of the Senate were alive but injured, from the broken claws and teeth of Katinal senator Shadow B'betsy to multiple bone breaks in the legs and arms in Nananian senator Elain Foyner. The appearance of the Scorpians just as the Holy Wolves entered was mysterious, and official finger-pointers have speculated an alliance between the 2 hostile countries. But why the building's collapse was so easy, and why the Wolves did it, remains a mystery to Cenian law enforcement

26 July 2011

Kyn Tucin Resigns Waterloo Council Position

Today Kyn Tucin resigned his seat on the Council of Waterloo. He resigned for several reasons: One, to protest Waterloo's bullying of Ceni; Two, to obey the Constitution of Ceni; and Three, to resign before Fon Que fires him.

14 July 2011

Waterloo Saboteurs destroy 2 of Cenaci's Power Plants

2 mysterious explosions at Cenaci's largest power plants have left billions without power and clean water. The Cenian government, CTR, New Aire, and many other corporation's facilities computers were shut down, leading to millions of Bewlegi in losses. Government analysts quickly linked the explosions with a group of Holy Wolves touring the plants on a "diplomatic mission". Witnesses said that they were carrying numerous items that looked like detonators or canisters. The saboteurs were killed in the blast that left many wanting to declare war on Waterloo. "This only adds to the number of diplomatic and military actions that either insulted Ceni, broke Cenian law, or destroyed items that were important to Ceni that Waterloo had been proved to behind. This deserves war!" said war hawk Senator of Pandolo sector John Trebor. Should Ceni declare war or should it not? This will raise many interesting questions in the national government.

31 May 2011

Memorial Day: None in Waterloo

When asked how his Memorial Day was, Waterloo leader Fon Que responded his country had none.

23 May 2011

Waterloo Newspaper Spreads Lies About King Tucin

Today, the latest edition of the newspaper The Waterloo Protector stated that "King Kyn Tucin of Ceni has knowingly insulted his esteemed Fon Que and should be prosecuted about that." The Protector also stated that "A fanatical Cenian, ordered by the King, infilitrated the Comnet and removed content the King considered 'obsecene'". The Cenian Intelligence Bureau and the king have denied these allegations, and have stated that the Protector is not a trustworthy newspaper, and that it is a liar. Fon Que added to these lies when he posted the link on his Comsnet page to the article condemning King Tucin. It remains to be seen if the Cenian populace approves or disapproves of the actions the King supposedly commited.

09 May 2011

Que of Waterloo Forges Papers

Today it was discovered that minister Fon Que of Waterloo had ordered subordinates to forge papers indicating that King Tucin had married former Secretary of State Saundra Narducci. The outbreak came after Mr. Que publicly told citizens that Narducci had married Tucin. Fon Que has seemed to sell Waterloo out to the Herd, and it appears that the emperor and empress had been deposed in favor of a Herd-run government. The country will now host regiments of Herd troops and ninjas.